Episode 358: Special Guest: Dave Asprey, Coffee, Minerals, Adrenal Fatigue, Wine, Coffee Enemas, Coffee Shops, Traveling, And More!

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Welcome to Episode 358 of The Intermittent Fasting Podcast, hosted by Melanie Avalon, author of What When Wine Diet: Lose Weight And Feel Great With Paleo-Style Meals, Intermittent Fasting, And Wine and Vanessa Spina, author of Keto Essentials: 150 Ketogenic Recipes to Revitalize, Heal, and Shed Weight.

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Listener Q&A: Nancy - Coffee's impact on the gut microbiome

Listener Q&A: Teresa - What are the rules around drinking coffee when you have adrenal issues?

Listener Q&A: Teresa - How do you find the best coffee?

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Melanie Avalon:
Welcome to Episode 358 of the Intermittent Fasting Podcast. If you want to burn fat, gain energy, and enhance your health by changing when you eat, not what you eat with no calorie counting, then this show is for you. I'm Melanie Avalon, biohacker, author of "What, When, Wine" and creator of the supplement line AvalonX. And I'm here with my co-host, Vanessa Spina, sports nutrition specialist, author of "Keto Essentials" and creator of the Tone Breath Ketone Analyzer and Tone Lux Red Light Therapy Bannals. For more on us, check out ifpodcast.com, melanieavalon.com, and ketogenicgirl.com. Please remember, the thoughts and opinions on this show do not constitute medical advice or treatment. To be featured on the show, email us your questions to questions@ifpodcast.com. We would love to hear from you. So pour yourself a mug of black coffee, a cup of tea, or even a glass of wine, if it's that time, and get ready for the Intermittent Fasting Podcast.

Hi, friends, you are in for such a special treat with today's episode. It is an in -person episode that I did with the incredible Dave Asprey at his house in Austin. If you want to see what that actually looked like, I will be posting video clips on my Instagram, so definitely check that out. I feel like he needs no introduction. Does he need an introduction? I don't know. Dave is basically the grandfather of biohacking. He's a multiple New York Times bestseller. He has books like The Bulletproof Diet, Headstrong, Fast This Way, which is all about fasting and Smarter Not Harder. And he's just a pretty awesome human being that I am so grateful to call my friend. And we tackled all of your questions about coffee because, oh my goodness, do we get a lot of coffee questions on this show? And who better to ask than Dave? And I think I talked about this in the show, but basically the only coffee I was drinking for years was Dave's Bulletproof Coffee because I really, really trusted him for quality and for it to be free of mold. Some drama went down. Dave is no longer with Bulletproof or at least is not right now. But that's all good because he made something even better, which is Danger Coffee, which I am obsessed with. It's mold free, free of toxins, and it is re -mineralized with ultra trace minerals. Plus it tastes delicious. Friends, I gifted Danger Coffee to so many people over Christmas. It's one of my favorite things. I cannot recommend it enough. You can get 10% off with the coupon code MelanieAvalon at MelanieAvalon.com/DangerCoffee. Make this your go -to coffee. It's my go -to coffee. Join the club. You will love it. I promise. And friends, if you would like to hang out with Dave and me, you can. I will be at Dave's 10th annual biohacking conference in Dallas this year. I went last year to the one in Orlando and it was such a blast. Friends, please come hang out with me. You can get 35% off your tickets with the coupon code BCMelanie. So for that, just go to melanieavalon.com/biohackingconference. Use the coupon code BCMelanie to get 35% off your tickets. Definitely snag those before they sell out. Also, if you go and you see me, please, please come up and say hi. People did that last year and it was so fun. I would love to talk to you. Love to meet you. So definitely don't be a stranger. Be my friend because we are friends. Again, melanieavalon.com/biohackingconference with the coupon code BCMelanie for 35% off your tickets. There will be links to all of this as well as a full transcript in the show notes. Those will be at ifpodcast.com/episode358. All right, without further ado, please enjoy this fabulous conversation with my dear friend Dave Asprey. Hi, friends. Welcome back to the show. So I am so excited to be here today with a legend in the biohacking and the fasting world. Dave Asprey, a man who barely needs any introduction and the topic of today's episode. So on this show, we get so many questions about coffee and my personal background with coffee. I started drinking about a decade ago something called Bulletproof Coffee. Heard of that. And that was because I was following Dave's work in the biohacking world and I was super concerned with things about mold and toxins. And at that part in time in my life, I was experiencing health issues. So I was like really kind of it was a fear mindset. I was scared of everything in any case. Which we evolved from that. Yeah, a little bit. But I was drinking Bulletproof because I honestly truly trusted Dave based on everything I heard about his concerns with his own mold issues. All the things. So I've been drinking Bulletproof Coffee. Well, I was drinking Bulletproof Coffee for about a decade. And then stuff happened, drama happened, and Dave is no longer with Bulletproof Coffee at the moment.

Yeah, I'm no longer working with Bulletproof for a variety of reasons.

Davis no longer working with Bulletproof for a variety of reasons, in his own words, which actually turned out to be to the benefit of everybody because he created something even better, which is Danger Coffee and friends, I've been talking about Danger Coffee a lot because it's amazing. I like the taste way better than Bulletproof and it has something even better in that it is remineralized. In any case, I recommend it to anybody and everybody and I just knew we had to have an episode with Dave on all things coffee. So Dave, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you, and I just want to make it super clear, Bulletproof is my baby, and it's a company that I founded. And when I was running it, Forbes named Bulletproof one of the top 20 most innovative brands in the country, which is unheard of for a company that size and all that. It's nice to be able to go back to my roots and be able to do new innovation, because the things I'm doing at Danger Coffee are things that have never been done in the coffee industry. I definitely made some waves the first time I'm talking about mold, and it made a lot of big coffee brands very angry. And I mean, some of the early comments were almost funny. I'm like, guys, this is back by science.

I'm going off -script now, I have questions, but I just have to ask, so what are you doing that is innovative with Danger Coffee?

Well, Danger Coffee, Older Clean, our mold testing abilities have evolved from 10 years ago. And so I mold test the coffee, and it says right on the bag, lab tested, mold free, that sort of a thing. If you look at some other brands that are out there that used to say mold free, they might not. And so you should be very careful on the label. If it says clean, what does it mean? It's nice to know. And the other thing that I'm doing is I'm an appatent, let's say we filed a patent for it, for remineralizing the coffee. And we're adding ionic and trace and ultra trace minerals in relatively high doses to the coffee so that you don't need to take mineral supplements that have the same things in them because they're in your coffee and the heat activates it. So you can't taste the mineral, but it makes the coffee hit different because of electrolyte presence. So when there's electrolytes in the coffee, you don't taste them, but the coffee, but it goes, wow, this coffee's really good. And for some reason you just want more. And you want more, not because you're craving caffeine, but you want more because your body says, I've been lacking minerals. I chose these minerals because it is the whole food plant -based diet that is stripping minerals from people's bones. And I thought maybe you should put it back in. I can't say that just Danger Coffee does this, but I drink Danger Coffee every day. And I take mineral supplements like the Minerals 101 stuff that I make and I eat my diet and lots of red meat and all that. But I had surgery on a bone. They cut the bone in my foot in half last year. And I was awake for it. And the surgeon, I did an episode on the show about this. The surgeon has the bone saw it's going, and it slows down in the bone. And he says, there's some, having a hard time getting through this guy's foot. Like, is he even human? And we actually have that on video. So I, after I said, David, what is going on here? I'll put it on someone half your age and their bones cut like butter. Like, why are your bones so dense? Like, what is it? Upgrade labs? I think it's the minerals actually that's driving bone density. And if you're eating almonds and kale and spinach and beets and whole grain, whatever stuff and beans, all of those things are pulling minerals out of your body and you get weak bones.

So with all of that context, it's providing minerals, it's providing nutrients. The question from me and from Lizzie, is it a food? Coffee.

I believe coffee is a superfood. The reason for that is coffee, and we'll say danger coffee, but all coffee, if you brew it with a metal filter instead of a paper filter, it has a very meaningful amount of soluble prebiotic fiber in it. It has more polyphenols than kale and spinach and even raspberries, even though they're different polyphenols. It's the number one source of these colored compounds from plants in our diet that are responsible inside your brain, inside your cells for making something called melanin. And we know melanin from suntans and dark skin, but melanin inside your eyes, inside your nervous system, acts electrically within the cells. And melanin is just cross -linked melanoids. Coffee is full of melanoids. They're basically polyphenols. So there you go. You're drinking coffee because it changes your gut bacteria and it extends and multiple studies, all kinds of coffee seem to be correlated with dying less of all causes. So why would you not consider that a superfood?

Well, Nancy actually wanted to know its impact on the gut microbiome, so I'm assuming that's a good impact that you just mentioned. It's a good impact.

Okay. If you look at the various studies and invite you to go out and look them up, just don't go to Google because Google can't do any health stuff anymore. It's like a censorship wasteland. Go to any other search engine and you'll find good information on just microbiome coffee. And it's pretty profound with a little bit of soluble fiber every day that you drink in the morning can do.

We're gonna get a lot of questions about, does that fiber then break your fast?

No, it turns out when I wrote Fast This Way, I also wrote about something else that doesn't break a fast, that really helps. The goal of fasting is not to suffer unless you're into that. The goal of fasting is to get the metabolic benefits of fasting. There is a kind of spiritual fast where you're going really deep and maybe sitting with discomfort as it, but if you got to get shit done today, maybe have some soluble fiber during your fast that doesn't raise mTOR, doesn't raise insulin, but feeds the bacteria in your gut so that they make short chain fatty acids that increase your ability to have ketosis. Well, that's why one of the things you can put in your water or coffee during a fast so you're not hungry and you can be focused and still get the fast would be soluble fiber. So no, it doesn't break a fast. The people who keep saying, if it has calories, it breaks a fast, they do not know science. Straight up, no science there.

We get a lot of questions about adrenal issues. So, Teresa wants to know, what are the rules around drinking coffee when you have adrenal issues? Does drinking coffee when fasted burn out your adrenals as she's heard some functional nutritionists' claim?

I've had stage four adrenal fatigue twice in my life. My body doesn't make enough cortisol, naturally. It's a genetic thing, never have. So I've been really, really burned out of dreamly. The first time I read one of the first books on this, Wilson's book on adrenal fatigue, I went a year and a half without coffee, slowly crawling out. The second time when I knew some of the tenants of longevity and biohacking, took me about six weeks to recover. And I drink coffee every day. Here's the deal, suffering doesn't make you stronger unless it's small doses that you chose. So if you have adrenal fatigue, you cannot function in the world and you hate your life and you need to go to work like I did and you can't get out of bed, but you have to anyway and you whip yourself into it, it sucks. And I feel you if you're there. So when should your cortisol rise? Do you know that's the answer?

Good morning.

Would a cup of coffee, a single cup of coffee for someone with adrenal fatigue help them raise their cortisol in the morning when they need to? Yeah, it does. And it gives you your life back. And you better drink it with a glassful of salt water. Sea salt or salt from a mine, preferably North America without explosives, yada yada. You do that because you need the electrolytes in the blood volume. And should you take it with adrenal cortex? Yes. Should you take it with licorice root? Yes. Do I do all that stuff? Yeah, I do. But to say I'm a purist, so I'm not going to drink coffee because someone says it might quote burn out my adrenals, not understanding even what that means. If you're worried about your adrenals, take an adaptogen, take adrenal cortex extract. In fact, those are longevity substances that I highly recommend, especially when you're traveling, when you're jet lagged, when you over train, when you're getting sick, because then you won't get sick. But to blame coffee for what lifestyle does, given all the studies, hundreds of studies showing all the metabolic and health and even resistance to major diseases like Alzheimer's that comes from coffee, like, oh, focus on adrenals. It doesn't matter how you feel. Just feel like shit, don't drink coffee for a while and maybe then you'll be better. I just feel like you might be paying that functional medicine doctor for a lot longer if you don't have coffee.

I cut out coffee and wine for a year.

I would agree on cutting out wine, that's so spad player.

No, no, no, no. I could have coffee and wine for a year, and then I realized I'm never gonna do that again. Like I'm happier. I'm happier with them in my life than without.

So I don't like to say this. I don't think wine is good for you. Really? But I think that if you drink wine that's older than you, it's good for you.

because it has more.

Just because you can't drink very much, it would be broke. Oh. So I self limit my wine to really, really expensive wine. In other words, I don't drink wine often. You don't? Really?

You don't think there's a hermetic benefit to alcohol?

There's data that says up to maybe half a shot of alcohol in some people can have a hormetic response on some things but not others. It's probably not good for breast cancer, particularly that's one where any amount seems to be not good for you. There are some conditions where a small amount is good for you but not one shot and not one shot every day. And if you monitor your sleep levels and you have a half a shot, even that will likely affect your sleep in a negative way.

My aura ring says I do fine with my wine.

How much do you have?

Like a glass. Every night. Of drag from wines.

So you're saying something cool. Dry farm wine is actually launched on my show. If I'm gonna drink wine that's not older than me, it would be dry farms because dry farms, like the standards I used to have when I was running Bulletproof, it's like, look, let's test for mold, let's test for additives. So if you're drinking wine, it needs to be European for sure because most American wines, and I know some people who run vineyards here that are really good, just most American wines have glyphosate because it's in our groundwater and that can be in your wine. And if they say no additives, you probably are really, really good there, but there's 2 ,000 additives that can be in American wine. So again, should you eat wheat? No, if you're gonna eat wheat, should you eat Italian wheat or American wheat? Don't touch American wheat, eat Italian wheat. So I would say dry farms, the cleanest wine, and I've been friends with them for years, they sponsor my events. If you're gonna drink it, that's what you do. I even tested a half a shot worth of alcohol, or whatever that would be, a half a glass of wine. For me anyway, it creates inflammation, maybe histamine or mast cells or something. Not all bottles do it. Dry farms is the cleanest, but I know I'm gonna feel less good the next day. I did 30 days of doing one glass a night just to test it out of either sake or dry farms wine or something else like vodka. And at the end of that time, just look at the brain, look at Dana Amos research on it. So I think you should save alcohol for special occasions, like once a week max and have at most two glasses when you're gonna do that, and take glutathione, take the Z -biotics and things like that. But sorry, it's not super healthy, but you can get away with it, but protect yourself. It's the acetaldehyde in the gut really is aging. So it's one of those things I want it to be good for me. I've tried, I just haven't figured out how.

Dr. Aiman on my show as well and I know that he's what you just said not a fan.

Well, on his board of directors, his work changed my life really helped to lead to biohacking the movement. So I would just say, does brain science support coffee? Yes. Does it support alcohol? Probably not.

Why do you think the mind diet includes a glass of wine as part of to drink, not optional? It's part of the diet and that's the official diet for preventing Alzheimer's.

than might and who published that?

It's like the mind diet.

Is that from the Alzheimer's Association?

I have to fact check, but it's like the diet associated with.

So like if you go to the American Diet... It would be the thing record...

or commented by...

Alzheimer's. Sorry guys. Go to the American Dietetic Association. They're the ones who do like school lunches and hospital meals that cause diabetes. Literally, their recommendations cause the problem. The American Heart Association, their diet with omega -6s, all their weird nonsense high carbs causes heart disease. You mentioned Nina Takelts in another interview. There was a time when I was considering a class action lawsuit about certain claims against the AHA. And then the next day I spoke to an executive from the AHA and it turns out they'd already changed their mind and I just didn't know it. I was like, thank you. They've shown they can evolve. I still think a lot of the recommendations are wrong, but there is moving in the right direction. So, bottom line, sorry. You better show some evidence. If you wanna know who to go to for Alzheimer's, it's Daniel Amon and Dale Bredesen, both of whom are friends who've been on my show. I hope Dale launches book. Those are the guys who know.

Well, if you do drink, drink, drink from wines. I agree with you 100%. Bring it into events like I do.

You know, I bring it, same thing, in my events. You sneak it in if you have to. You will see dry farm wine at my events, and I've, because people are gonna drink, I totally support you, you're right, and ability to drink, just drink this up without toxins in it. And, am I, can I ethically say that drinking a glass a night is in science good for you? No, can I say half a glass a night? If you don't have any other sensitivities, might be good for you, if there's no toxins, probably. So, there you go.

Well, we can circle back to that, but I will say that at your biohacking conference most recently, it was Dry Bar Wine. I always had Dry Bar Wine, it's good wine. It was so good, I contacted them, and I was like, I love the one that they had, and then they sent me a case of what you had at, it was a Pino. No, it was really good.

They're good people and they really do test their wine. So I was like, someone had to fix wine and they did it. Yeah. That's how they're still in three glasses. This is good for you. Sorry.

Well, so back to coffee, April, if you drink high quality coffee like Danger Coffee, should you drink it daily or should you consider cycling?

Well, if you have a compound that makes you feel good every day, that seems to, in multiple studies, reduce, at least it's associated with a reduction in all cause mortality, and the benefits increase up to either three cups a day or up to five cups a day, depending on which study you believe in, why would you not drink it some days? Is this like self -loathing or like what, what would the motivation be? Maybe a desire to die more quickly? I'm just confused. Here's what it is.

people have the questions that you've been talking about through this episode of not knowing if maybe it's better a different way.

Yeah, I don't, I can't see any reason to do that. People are like, but it's addictive. I'm like, look, if you have something to do every day, and you feel good when you do it, and if you don't do it for a day or two, you start feeling worse, then it's an addiction. They go, yeah, I'm talking about exercise. So food's addictive too. So it's breathing, like things that make you feel good and perform better and feel better, the great preponderance of evidence is that coffee is good for us. I mean, there's thousands and thousands of studies out there, and it's a bit more edgy for something like nicotine. We had a question about that. Like nicotine smoking, we know that's bad for you, but we know smokers don't get Parkinson's and Alzheimer's because it's protective. So can you use nicotine apart from smoking as a cognitive enhancer on a longevity substance? I've written about that, took a lot of heat for it, but the science is real, but it's more nuanced. With coffee, it's not very nuanced. There's really good evidence that says coffee's good for you, and there's also evidence that says moldy coffee is not as good for you. I even published a study on it myself, but I have 36 studies that back it up that I didn't pay for or publish from around the world. So coffee's a thing, clean coffee's a bigger thing. Wine's a thing, clean wine's a bigger thing.

I think you can make the same argument with wine with all the studies, possibly.

You could, although they study vodka as well, which is basically the alcohol and wine without all the toxins.

to use nicotine every day.

Not every day. I go through phases. I've gone through phases. I'm like, I really like nicotine. It is one of my favorite cognitive enhancers. Like if you want to write a really, really nice, like 10 ,000 words in a night, which is what I do when I go into the flow state for writing. I'm like, a little bit, I do decaf danger and I'll put a little MCT and butter in it and I'll turn the lights to red and I'll take a spray or two of nicotine.

A spray, so you're doing.

I do one milligram spray. You can buy it anywhere in the US, anywhere in the world except for the US. It's just not approved here. That's the way it works. Or buy it on eBay, because people import it and then resell it. But you do it and then you just feel like your brain go, and then literally I can integrate 10 ,000 words a second right, and they're good words.

I'm a fan. I like the patches. But don't overdo it because you'll get sick.

Yeah, and too much nicotine is bad for your vascular system. You need like, it's a, that's a micro dose. So that's a tough one. But when it comes to coffee, three to five cups a day, depending on your caffeine processing ability in your liver, it's just good for you. Three to five cups? The studies show increasing, it can be decaf too. It's not the caffeine, it's the polyphenols. So three to five cups a day, even instant coffee works, which is the moldiest, worst coffee you could possibly get. Even that shows benefits that increase. And in one major set of data, it's up to three cups a day. And in the other older and bigger set of data, it's up to five cups a day. So I do about three cups in the morning of normal danger coffee. And if I'm really disciplined, I might do a decaf that night, but I don't always do decaf at night.

I will say if you don't have that much and then you need it so you have like a cup of coffee, you feel like you can conquer the world. Or if you do a copy in a month.

in that tweak you.

tweak me? Yeah. What does that mean? I try.

I'm like, it is so hot. Oh.

No, you just pour it down a little bit. That's fine.

Yeah, okay. But the caffeine hits me hard when I do... It does.

I did that and I was like, oh, this is what it means to feel alive. This is life right here. And then I started doing them every day and I was like, I got to stop this.

You can overdo them. And by the way, functional medicine, people love them. There's good stuff for the liver. There is a pretty good paper from some traditional colon doctor guy who went through a lot of research and including ER visits. And people do perforate their colons with coffee enemas and you can disrupt your microbiome. So it's like, go. Wait, the actual... Maybe they're putting too much in. I don't know. But they had a few case reports that were not really nice. So I would say be cautious and maybe every day might be too much. But doing that a couple times a week, depending on what you're detoxing and why, I think it could be a good thing. But I would just say, I hear mixed results, but in the functional medicine detox community, it's very popular and I think there's good evidence for it.

Well, to wrap it all up, I brought my enema bucket with me when I travel.

You bring a bucket? Do you check it separately? Like it's a big sticker. Get them a bucket. It's stainless steel. Like it let it rattle through the custom. No, it's not.

I don't like a whole colonic system. I do have one of those at home. But no, it's like the space. You just put in your suitcase.

Yeah, but why did you just use the toilet? What do you need a bucket?

A bucket if you want to do an enema.

Oh, to get it in.

Yeah, to do an NMI requires equipment.

But you're in a bucket, then I have like squeezy like... Oh, but like...

I don't like that.

Okay, got it. No, no. I'm less anime experienced than you. The way?

That relates last question to bring it all together. Teresa wants to know, how do you find the best coffee? And I know you've talked about this, so I kind of know your answer, but how do you find the best coffee when you are traveling? Is there something to look for that is less likely to be moldy or full of bad ingredients? Is a place like, this is a good question, is a place like Starbucks that serves high volume, likely to be fresher than a mom and pop?

the freshness of your coffee does not determine whether it has mold or not. The mold is forming during the growth of the coffee in small part and mostly during the fermentation of the coffee. And after the mold is grown, then they wash the coffee and they strip off the outer layers, but the parts per million of the toxins that matter are already in the beans. Studies show, and these are published on my website, you go to daveaspery.com and search for one ugly mug is the name of the post. I can always remember that. And when you look on there, you go, oh wait, are there studies that show that these toxins survive roasting the beans they do? Are there studies that show they're present in brewed coffee? Yes, there are studies. And the studies that don't find them are using the techniques where you actually can't find them because coffee can mask toxins in certain kinds of tests. So it's complex. So how do you find it? I'm at a coffee shop and I want good coffee. I know I might take a hit, but I'm willing to try. And this is one of the things that led me to start making mold -free coffee is I followed the algorithm. I'm in Denver. I'm going to give a big keynote about antivirus software. Very exciting, like my tech career. So I drive 40 minutes in a taxi to get clean coffee because I'm like, I'm dying here. I need it. And I go to the shop and I say I want single estate. This means coffee from one plantation. And Central America at that time had the best climate for less toxins in it. Just it depends on how much rain, how much drought, and things like that. And Guatemala, back when I started the company was a good source for it. And I've since found different sources for danger. But I said, okay, I'm going to try that coffee. I didn't know any of this other than single estate, Guatemala. And I get the coffee and I drink and it tastes really good. And I'm on my way to give my keynote direct from the coffee shop. And then the mold toxins hit me and I wouldn't even hit you. Guys, I lived in a toxic mold bedroom as a kid. I've had multiple damage on clinical scans that Daniel Aiman did. And I've done a documentary on toxic mold. People have been exposed to mold. If you're one of them, you know, I'm talking about you feel mold. And it feels like someone's shutting off your brain. It feels like your body is like jittery and anxious and cranky. And it's, it's hitting me. Somebody even get pain in your joints or in your back. And I'm like, I feel like I just took bad drugs. And I'm on the way to give a keynote. I have no idea what I said in the keynote. It probably didn't suck that bad. But it wasn't that happy of a day. And I'm just like, this is unacceptable. I spent 50 bucks on cab fare to get a frickin cup of coffee. And I got the most nice expensive, probably good. But that's how you do it. It's single estate, Central American washed coffee. It's like a 5050 throw you don't know. Right. And the reason I do danger coffee is it is lab tested. You're not 5050, you know, it's clean. And then the minerals that I use, they actually can clean mold because they bind to it. So there you go. You've got something you know what you're getting. I have traveled around the world carrying danger coffee. And I've gone to Starbucks in every continent that I've been to and said, Hey, can I have a vent a hot water, please? And I pour my ground danger coffee in, I stir it with a spoon. And eventually when it's brooded, drops to the bottom and I pour it into my flask and I'm good to go. I literally brew coffee every day I'm on the road. I travel at least 200 days a year, because I don't want to feel like crap. And I have tried gold metal award winning coffee, most amazing flavorful ever. And then you feel like garbage afterwards. And I don't like feeling like garbage. That's why I did danger coffee and the name danger coffee. It's because who knows what you might do. The idea that we're going to do something for your own safety. You can be like humbled and doled by people just trying to keep you safe. And I don't want to be around people like that. I want to be around people who are dangerous, because they're the people who start companies, they're the people who asked her out finally. They're the people who took a risk because it was worth it. They had a dream and they reached for the dream. So here's to having dangerous people in the world who choose to be peaceful, because that's what makes an amazing world. And people who are scared, so they're peaceful. They're not dangerous people. They're boring people. And they'll probably do evil. So be dangerous. And who knows what you might do. You might have fun.

I'll give you my endorsement. Like I said in the beginning, I really do. I love Danger Coffee. I have only heard good things from listeners who have bought it and reported back. People love it. It tastes amazing. And like I said, it's mold -free, and then it's one step better with all of the remilorization and everything. It replaces.

This is expensive supplements for minerals. If you have the amount of minerals that are in it, it is more expensive than regular coffee. But you're getting a therapeutic dose of minerals when you drink it at every time. And I feel different. And so it's also delicious. It's my latest and greatest.

Do you know how much I love it?

And you tell.

I gave it as a Christmas gift to my assistants, like a massive shipment of it.

Oh my gosh.

So that's how you know. Do you know? Because I'm a gift, like gift giving is my love language. So that, that's how you know.

Well, guess what I have for you? What? I was gonna give it to you after the show, but I don't know how, in the room with me. Have you heard of our new ceremonial grade, Danger Coffee?

I saw it on the website.

So there are levels of coffee that most people have never experienced because they're microlots that they may only have, you know, 1200 bags. And they're like the finest wine, but they're coffee. So finding a microlot that's clean that we can lab test and remineralize, we did it. And it's now a subscription thing where maybe once a quarter we're going to be doing this. And I have one of those for you. And it's amazing. Thank you. You're welcome.

Well, it's a good day. It's a good day. It's worth the trip. Yes.

And thanks for having me as your first ever live podcast guest. And thanks for coming to Austin. So I didn't have to come to Atlanta. That would be a lot of work.

No, thank you. And well, this has been so amazing. And like I said, I am really, really obsessed with Danger Coffee. It takes things to the next level, tastes amazing, mold -free, remineralized. So friends, go to melanieavalon.com/danger. Use the coupon code MelanieAvalon that will get you 10% off site -wide. I promise you, you will not regret it. It's one of my favorite things in my life. I cannot recommend it enough. melanieavalon.com/danger. Coupon code MelanieAvalon for 10% off. Thank you, by the way, for that discount. I really appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thank you. And thank you, Dave, for everything that you have done. You are truly changing the world. You talk the talk and walk the walk. You do the things. Why? Thank you very much. I like you're very genuine and I can say that everything that you say and endorse is just coming from a real place of honesty. And thank you.

You're very welcome. And keep supporting the Biohockey movement, keep talking about all the stuff you find that works, and every day, more people are joining.

Alright, talk to you later.

Thanks guys for tuning in.

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